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121657 No.1   [Reply]

キタ━━━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━━━ !!!!!

>> No.2  

Why's there a logo on it?

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としあき何やってんの?w
何やってんのとしあき?w



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I've been thinking, which is almost never a good thing, about where the Haibane came from or why they show up the way they do. I came up with a little bit of a theory, so don't take offense or freak out. This is kind of long and I don't really know if I'm explaining it correctly but hey it's worth a try. Let me know what you think, after all it's always fun to discuss ABe more in depth. Don’t insult me if I didn’t read up on this idea beforehand, it just came to mind. So Here Goes:

The Haibane are named based of the dream they have in the cocoon, but what does that dream really mean? Rakka believed that the crow from her own dream was someone she hurt badly and need forgiveness from in order to no longer be sinbound, if I am not mistaken.

So maybe these dreams that the Haibane have are in fact the last final moments of their lives before being Haibane, and perhaps how(or if) they died.

We take Reki for example, Reki's true name was To be Run Over (something to that extent) and her dream was scary. Her dream was a vivid portrayal of exactly what happened when she died, which is what made it so terrifying. Reki, as we all know, was run over by a train whilst walking on it's tracks.

Other dreams, like Rakka's or Hikari's are recalled pleasantly, perhaps because the reality of death was too much to handle.

Hikari remembers a brilliant light from her dream. Perhaps she was struck by lightning? Or maybe electrocuted in some manner or another? Or maybe she died in a fire? If you really want to go on the dark side, you could say the Haibane had committed suicide in their past lives, but this doesn’t explain the presence of the young feathers. Most children as young as that don’t even know what suicide is much less how to commit it.

Kuu remembers falling through clouds, and Rakka recalls falling as well. Perhaps they both suffered falls from high rise buildings, a plane crash, or even a short fall that resulted in their death.

Nemu was sleeping. Perhaps that’s how she died, suddenly and in her sleep.

Kana would mean being drowned.

The crow in Rakka’s dream could easily represent a relative or friend who was with her when she passed and tried to save her, but couldn’t. Rakka seeks forgiveness for hurting this person who tried so desperately to save her from an inevitable fate.

Whatever the case may be, my theory is that the Haibane are former human beings who suffered a quick and shocking death, and subsequently are unable to cope with that fact or are completely unaware of it.

So you and conclude that the Haibane are the souls of the dead who haven’t come to terms with losing their lives. When their day of flight arrives, that is the chosen day that they are sent to heaven, nirvana, whatever you may wish to call it.

I could keep going with this, but then that would make this excruciatingly long. So what do you think?

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>> No.19  

>>12
I just noticed that I completely ignored the first part of your post. I don't think that the townsfolk really know about the incident with Reki and Hyouko. I mean, the town looks to have quite a few people, and there aren't that many Haibane. None of the townsfolk seem to know very much at all about the Haibane, so I wouldn't be surprised if the incident were kept on the down-low.

>> No.20  

I just can't reconcile that all Haibane were born from suicide. That's not just the ones from Old Home and Abandoned Factory, you're also talking about the Haibane Renmei, the Young Feathers and any incidental groups whom may simply have not been mentioned in the series.

I actually have a bit different theory myself, which explains why there's such a difference between a Haibane from Old Home and one from Abandoned Factory; remember that the Young Feathers were not originally from Old Home. Remember also, that the young feathers did not get names from their dreams, and look at the naming conventions of the older Haibane in Abandoned Factory. Hyouko, meaning 'Ice Lake', Midori, meaning 'Green'. It seems to me that their particular names are more in reference to their personalities than their causes of death, especially in Midori's case.

I think that the idea of Old Home being the home for, well, post-suicidal girls could be correct. However, I don't think it's common for all Haibane. Those that come from Abandoned Factory were not suicidal, they were more troubled than anything else.

Oh, I don't know... Sorry, this thread's making me think as I write, so my ideas probably aren't coming through as clearly as I'd like them to.

>> No.21  

When a Haibane times to fly, where do they go? To the other side of the wall or given another chance to live into the real world?

>> No.22  

>>21
Somewhere that isn't Guri, that's for sure. That's about all I can say.

>> No.23  

I may be out of place here, but felt the need to speak up. I'm a 55-year-old guy with 2 teenaged children, and I had the privilege of watching Haibane from 1st episode to last. I have watched LOTS of anime over the past 10 year, and have to say that I enjoyed Haibane the most. I found it gentle, thoughtful and insightful about human needs and relationships, especially the need for forgiveness and of caring for and trusting one another. The series showed a great understanding of children and their needs, and of the consequences of guilt, as well as the redemptive power of forgiveness. I enjoy reading your thoughts on the symbols in Haibane, and I'm very glad to know others have been touched by the story enough to discuss it and continue to learn from it. I guess maybe it's about time I watched it again.....:)

>> No.24  

I've always taken it for granted that only the Haibane who developed black feathers were suicides. The others seem to me to be those who died violently, but not by their own hands.

>> No.25  

At the beginning Reki says that an Haibane doesn't remember anything of the past life, and nobody of the past life remember of the Haibane.. So i think that the ones who die without being remembered become Haibanes

>> No.26  

At the beginning Reki says that an Haibane doesn't remember anything of the past life, and nobody of the past life remember of the Haibane.. So i think that the ones who die without being remembered become Haibanes

>> No.27  

I disagree with the theory that the haibane committed suicide in their past life...
I do agree however, that their names (which are influenced by their dreams) play an important role in the story.

reki's = to be run over / stepping stone
rakka's = fall / involved nut

I think the names just serve to provide dichotomous contrast between "good" and "bad" applied to a social context...
Rakka shines when she displays the qualities of an "involved nut" in the same way that reki displays her ability to be a "stepping stone" (she took care of the young feathers and was a model figure in many ways). I don't think the two necessarily cancel each other out; both can be true at the same time.

Rather, I think the two names represent two sides of a character, a choice they get to make.

One of the most important aspects to the reki plot was that she was obsessed about her dream and her inability to remember it. Eventually, this caused her to spiraled down in a depressive cycle

This may be interpreted as her attachment and perseverance on the negative aspects of herself...

Art and media likewise, are often a projection of the author/artist's inner thoughts... which leads me to question where ABe drew his inspirations for haibane renmei from... did he himself have a depressive episode, or did someone close to him experience something similar? Once again, I don't think the entire series was about "depression" but I think it does play into one aspect of it...

If someone did ask me though, I would say that the series was about "learning to fall and pick yourself up again"
This is exactly what happened to both rakka and reki (perhaps the crow was someone who intended to help rakka, but she pushed him/her away?).

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Off topic a bit- but The name/Word "Midori" (緑/ みどり) actually has two meanings in Japanese. The verb "Green" and the descriptive noun "foliage" sort of like nature, earth, that which grows....is kind of hard to explain.

I'm actually studying japanese right now in tokyo and JUST finished this series- I'm so glad that people have posted their theories here because i really wanted a bit more clarity... >.>



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383518 No.1   [Reply]

I did some paintings on my tablet last night, and I thought I might share with you all. If you don't like them you can blow it out your rear end.

And I mean that in the NICEST way possible. ;)

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I don't like this one that much actually....



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683927 No.1   [Reply]

I figured it'd be useful to have a link to the torrent here. People who haven't read this should check it out! :D

http://raspberryheaven.net/~adtrw/torrents/%5Byoshitoshi_ABe%5D_%5Beng%5D_White_Rain_%5Bv3%5D.zip.torrent

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Wow.

>> No.4  

1 and 2 are down, will some one repost please?

>> No.6  

The "v" isn't for "volume"; it's for "version". This was the third version of the scanlation of ABe's single-shot doujinshi called "White Rain." Sadly, there is nothing else to read aside from this one doujinshi.

>> No.7  

One seed with upload rate of 0.000001 kb isn't cutting it.

Reseed, please.

>> No.8  

Reseeding, both this and the ABe megatorrent for a little bit.

>> No.9  

Could I get a seed for this? I missed it the first time. A RS or MU s fine too

>> No.10  

I'll try, but I'm at university, so I don't know if Azureus will actually work.

>> No.11  

Seeding. You should have it in short order.

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So I was reading through my reprint edition of White Rain yesterday, and I noticed that some of the text looked funky. I freaked out, thinking I had bought a misprinted copy or something, or worse, that ABe had just messed up in the creation process somewhere and overlooked a somewhat conspicuous error. I checked my scans of the original release, and the same issue is there.

I thought for a while that this might have actually been done on purpose to give the text a strange feel, since at first I thought it only happened in the dream scene where 329 talks with the bug. However, it happens at least two other times, on pages 30 and 31.



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Animated

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These always make me laugh.

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>> No.96  

Has anyone seen this and if so, is it any good?

>> No.97  

Tell me what "this" is and I may be able to help you.

>> No.98  

Anyway, yes, Haibane Renmei is a fantastic series. Everyone should at least give it a chance.

And bump, for awesome artwork.

>> No.99  

Any more high-res images like that?

(I don't care if the OP is 14 months old, I'm asking anyway.)



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>> No.2  

Dammit I keep messing up. Sorry guys!

>> No.3  

As long as nobody has posted anything past your own post (like I'm doing now), you should be able to delete what you've posted by checking the box next to your post, scrolling all the way down, and clicking "delete."



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Hi, I've been looking for these two images for a long time. Could anyone help me? I used to have them in my collection, but they disappeared. Thanks!

>> No.2  

The first one looks vaguely familiar; the second does not. They might be in the Omnipresence in Wired artbook (or in the reprint), though. Gimme a bit to search...

>> No.3  

Aaand... nope. Neither of them in either book.

The internet never ceases to surprise me. Maybe those are from Visual Experiments Lain, but the only person who has that (that I know of) is Novastar, and Nova's not been about lately. I think. At least he's awfully quiet.

>> No.4  

Yeah, it'd be nice if we could get some better-quality versions of those.

>> No.5  

yeah i doublechecked the ABe artbook and can confirmm Bagles said.

im really interested in the photo to the left..

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Here you go guys, sorry i haven't been around lately. Been enormously busy working full time and going to school full time.. was also recovering from surgery for awhile.

Found this image during my random hunts awhile back.. the filename is ab107j.jpg .. which leads me to believe it's an early beta pic before lain was boardcast from abe's online gallery and was taken down later.

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>>6
Missing her asymmetry, I see.

>> No.8  

speaking of hard to find, did the fansites ever finish translating the lain book (not art, but actual stories?)



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58829 No.1   [Reply]

Just curious - could anybody with a better (read: any) grasp of moonspeak than m'self take a gander at the ABlog and tell what's going on in the latest diary post? It was accompanied by the attached sketch today, which rarely happens, so I assume something is up.

>> No.2  

oh! and a helpful link to said blog. just in case.

http://homepage.mac.com/abworks/iblog/index.html

>> No.3  

"I saw a guy at the store wearing his pants really low"

Then he goes on to imagine who started that trend with an American hip-hop guy having his pants fall down and shouting IT'S FASHION YO! FASHION.

So, uh, entirely not art-related.

>> No.4  

Oh where did my name cookie go.



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